Carri Hulet and Christopher Palmer join Jen and Patrick to explore how peace is formed in the realities of ward life, where people are covenanted together, differences are unavoidable, and conflict can either fracture trust or deepen belonging. In this episode, they unpack the tension between avoiding contention and engaging honestly, especially in doctrinal, relational, and leadership settings. They also share practical ways leaders and members can allow people feel heard an

Jen and Patrick are joined by Daryl Davis to explore the profound lessons of peace, unity, and diversity through the biblical story of the Tower of Babel. They engage in a compelling dialogue about how understanding, communication, and exposure can transform hatred into harmony. This episode reminds us that peace begins with understanding and that even in the most difficult conversations, empathy and exposure can open pathways toward reconciliation.

I’ve played the cello for almost 20 years now. My childhood and high school years were filled with private lessons, school orchestras, community orchestras, and improv playing with my musically talented family and friends. Throughout college and more recent years, my cello has collected dust only to be brought out a few times a year and is now, very sadly, sitting in its case in my closet. Despite my neglect, I have a deep love for the instrument. You may have heard of the