Former U.S. diplomat Matthew Tueller joins Jen and Patrick to go through a wide-ranging reflection on peace, public service, and the hard moral questions raised by scripture and conflict. He explains how his years in the Middle East shaped his understanding of common ground, truth-telling, and the limits of power. They review Jonah and Zechariah to explore how ancient texts speak to modern peacemaking, forgiveness, and the discipline of seeing enemies as fully human.